Hellboy II

Jul. 14th, 2008 06:58 am
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If the Guillermo del Toro who directed "El laberinto del fauno" shows up to direct "The Hobbit," it promises to be a great movie. If the del Toro who wrote and directed "Hellboy II" shows up in new Zealand, then all bets are off.

Date: 2008-07-14 05:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bigsabu.livejournal.com
Thank you! I've been wanting to vent to someone who saw it. UGH! When I turn to my friend and say, "If [the exact ending of the movie] happens at the end of this movie, I am going to be fucking pissed."

Needless to say, I was pissed.

So much else I did not enjoy about that move. That's one of the biggest things.

It was beautiful, though.
Edited Date: 2008-07-14 05:26 pm (UTC)

Date: 2008-07-14 05:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tbass.livejournal.com
He's so much better with his own ideas. Pans Labyrinth and the Devils Backbone were both amazing. Mimic, Blade 2 and Hellboy were all extremely mediocre (although, very beautifully shot for what they were). It'll be interesting to see what he does with the Hobbit.

Date: 2008-07-14 10:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fredneckteddy.livejournal.com
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Date: 2008-07-14 11:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darkrose79.livejournal.com
ive heard that comment a few times already from people whe say HB2 lucky for me i stalled seeing it till i heard the reactions

Date: 2008-07-14 11:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daddytodd.livejournal.com
That's excellent work! I've seen some of the pics on your LJ, you're doing great!

Date: 2008-07-14 11:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daddytodd.livejournal.com
I kept trying to see visible seams on Ron Perlman's full-torso/neck/head prosthetics. Didn't see any. That was amazing work. The rest of the movie... we couldn't decide if it SUCKED, or if it BLEW.

our biggest laugh in the entire movie came as soon as the flaming girl extinguished herself for the first time, and I leaned over to Ron and John and said "That's Ursula Udders!"

Date: 2008-07-14 11:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daddytodd.livejournal.com
Wait till it comes on cable. Not even worth a rental, IMHO.

Date: 2008-07-14 11:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daddytodd.livejournal.com
Pan's Labyrinth was brilliant. So was Chronos. Never saw Hellboy or Blade II, so I can't say. But Hellboy II was really terrible. And sadly, depressingly, utterly predictable.

Date: 2008-07-15 01:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brutusbuffalo.livejournal.com
I thought it was alotta fun. I think he nailed the exact feel of the comic.

Date: 2008-07-15 01:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deafguy.livejournal.com
He's directing The Hobbit? Whatever happened to Peter Jackson?

I, for once, enjoyed Hellboy 2. Was it spectacular? Not really. But it was a solid flick that I felt was better than the original. Had more plot than I expected. There was no subtitles, but I could still follow it, although I don't know where Hellboy and his friends were walking to in the end. The costume and the scenery design was amazing, and I was entertained and never had to check my watch. To me, that's enough to say the movie was worth it.

Date: 2008-07-15 01:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daddytodd.livejournal.com
I guess I'm just not the target audience for that movie.

I had to wash my ears out with "It's a Small World" to get "Can't Smile Without You" off the 8-track that lives in my head...

Date: 2008-07-15 02:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daddytodd.livejournal.com
Different strokes, and all that. I was bored bored BORED by it. I kept waiting for something I could care about to happen. Turns out all 3 of us were bored; we would've left if anyone had broached the subject.

The Nature Elemental, or whatever it was, was beautiful and cool, but didn't seem to have anything to do with the rest of the movie.

PJ is producing and co-writing the 2 Hobbit movies (with Fran Walsh and Philippa Boyens, who wrote LoTR), but del Toro is slated to direct.

Date: 2008-07-15 02:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daddytodd.livejournal.com
Of course, I might've been bored because I knew I was missing the Sunday afternoon repeat of the Kathy Griffin episode where you can see a fleeting image of my profile as I stand in the lobby of the Castro Theatre with about a thousand other Bears...

Date: 2008-07-15 07:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] retrocool.livejournal.com
The movie was fantastic to me for a summer movie... I mainly go see his "Hollywood" films just for the visuals and see what he comes up and creates and you have to admit what he created was pretty amazing.

Mimic I say was his worst film, but he also admits that he hated that movie as well, especially what the studio did with it when he washed his hands off from being in any part of that movie...

...a fleeting image of my profile...

Date: 2008-07-15 07:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stoutpilsner.livejournal.com
I thought that was you. I was like 'Ooooh sexy Daddy... OMG was that Todd?' heheh. Too quick to tell if you were loopy from the flu though.

Re: ...a fleeting image of my profile...

Date: 2008-07-15 12:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daddytodd.livejournal.com
I was, I promise you!

Date: 2008-07-15 12:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daddytodd.livejournal.com
I really don't think my standards are all that high -- I just want a story that pulls me in and doesn't bore me. HB II did neither.

Date: 2008-07-15 10:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deafguy.livejournal.com
*shrugs* I understand your opinions. No harm done :)

But why blame Guillermo del Toro for your boredom? Wouldn't it make more sense to blame the writers for the boring script? I probably don't know enough about how movies are made, but I thought the director was in charge of the filming style? (i.e., the costumes/scenery choices and the way it was filmed) Would he actually have any influence over the script? Sure, he could suggest/embellish changes here and there, but it doesn't make sense to me that the director could make a script boring unless he actually wrote it?

Date: 2008-07-16 12:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daddytodd.livejournal.com
del Toro was credited with "screenplay" and co-credited with "story." That means he worked up the plot with another guy (Mike Mingola, creator/writer of the Hellboy comic) and then wrote the actual script himself. So yeah, he gets the blame ;-)
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