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daddytoddMe and Ron got the DVD of "Bear Cub" in the mail yesterday; I preordered from TLA's website a couple months ago. We watched it again last night, after seeing it at IBR back in February.
I'm reasonably impressed with it as a film; it's not great, but it's pretty damn good.
The opening credits are some of the hottest bearporn I've seen in a long time, even without any close-ups of penetration or cum shots. Why can't actual PORNO give us something as hot as this?
We watched the deleted scenes both before and after watching the complete film, trying to figure out how they would've played in the film. The long sequence of Manuel's arrival, dinner out, arrival at Pedro's apartment and all the slapstick, scream-filled panic that ensues would've seriously undermined the quiet melancholy of the film, and was wisely left out. There's some funny stuff there, but it belongs in a different film; perhaps something by Pedro Almodovar, circa 1989.
The second deleted scene, depicting Pedro and his friends "three years later" was interesting, because I can't imagine how both that scene and the "sauna" scene could've both been in the same film. I think the sauna scene was filmed after the decision was made to drop the "Pedro and friends" scene. Perhaps the director felt a need to indicate Pedro's emotional state, and since Manuel had disappeared from the film after his one brief scene, decided to tell the audience that Pedro still wasn't ready for a relationship.
In the deleted scene, Pedro is seen with Manuel and a group of friends having dinner and "partying" in his apartment. He's holding Manuel's hand and they're acting very husbear-like. It's never explicitly stated, but the undertone is that Pedro has overcome his reservations to living with Manuel, and they're now a couple. The "sauna" scene exists primarily for Pedro's line at it's end; "prefiero quedarme aqui," which I take to mean he's still unable to form a pairbond, and his life continues to be one of anonymous sex in darkened rooms with nameless strangers.
Maybe the director didn't want to have too much of a happy ending, but frankly the film seems unnecessarily bleak because of the "sauna" scene. I'd like to believe that learning to love Bernardo would open Pedro's heart, and allow him to let Manuel (or someone) into his life. Maybe I'm too "hollywoodized" and still believe in sentimental "we've learned something here" happy endings.
But I know very few single bears who would actually turn down an offer of marriage from someone they care for. The single bears I know are rarely single by choice; instead they're single because they haven't yet found someone who cares for them.
I haven't listened to the director's commentary yet; I really should do that tonight. Maybe he explains how I've completely misconstrued his intent.
I'm reasonably impressed with it as a film; it's not great, but it's pretty damn good.
The opening credits are some of the hottest bearporn I've seen in a long time, even without any close-ups of penetration or cum shots. Why can't actual PORNO give us something as hot as this?
We watched the deleted scenes both before and after watching the complete film, trying to figure out how they would've played in the film. The long sequence of Manuel's arrival, dinner out, arrival at Pedro's apartment and all the slapstick, scream-filled panic that ensues would've seriously undermined the quiet melancholy of the film, and was wisely left out. There's some funny stuff there, but it belongs in a different film; perhaps something by Pedro Almodovar, circa 1989.
The second deleted scene, depicting Pedro and his friends "three years later" was interesting, because I can't imagine how both that scene and the "sauna" scene could've both been in the same film. I think the sauna scene was filmed after the decision was made to drop the "Pedro and friends" scene. Perhaps the director felt a need to indicate Pedro's emotional state, and since Manuel had disappeared from the film after his one brief scene, decided to tell the audience that Pedro still wasn't ready for a relationship.
In the deleted scene, Pedro is seen with Manuel and a group of friends having dinner and "partying" in his apartment. He's holding Manuel's hand and they're acting very husbear-like. It's never explicitly stated, but the undertone is that Pedro has overcome his reservations to living with Manuel, and they're now a couple. The "sauna" scene exists primarily for Pedro's line at it's end; "prefiero quedarme aqui," which I take to mean he's still unable to form a pairbond, and his life continues to be one of anonymous sex in darkened rooms with nameless strangers.
Maybe the director didn't want to have too much of a happy ending, but frankly the film seems unnecessarily bleak because of the "sauna" scene. I'd like to believe that learning to love Bernardo would open Pedro's heart, and allow him to let Manuel (or someone) into his life. Maybe I'm too "hollywoodized" and still believe in sentimental "we've learned something here" happy endings.
But I know very few single bears who would actually turn down an offer of marriage from someone they care for. The single bears I know are rarely single by choice; instead they're single because they haven't yet found someone who cares for them.
I haven't listened to the director's commentary yet; I really should do that tonight. Maybe he explains how I've completely misconstrued his intent.
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Date: 2005-05-10 02:56 pm (UTC)I think, though, I'd have to disagree with you on the ending. I mean I admit to being kinda anti-hollywood but I also think the bleakness of Pedro's relationship life just makes things with his nephew seem even more intense. I mean here's a man for, whatever reason, can't accept a relationship with a lover yet feels sooooo strongly about his nephew that it tears him apart to lose him... I think if it had left on an upbeat note then the level of that heartbreak would have been lost or obscured.
But maybe that's the pessimist in me. Course I also know a bunch of bears who are single by choice or by past trauma. *hehe*
Though let me know if he says anything in the commentary. I'd be curious, too.
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Date: 2005-05-11 12:31 am (UTC)But kids eventually grow up and leave thehome; that's the purpose of parenthood, to create independent people who go off and form their own lives. So in a few more yars bernardo will be an adult, and Pedro will be essentially alone.
If Pedro learns how to let someone into his life, he doesn't have to be alone after bernardo grows up.
I'll listen to the commentary tonight if I can.
Just a not
Date: 2005-05-11 08:08 am (UTC)I have lots of things to say about Cachorro movie... Hum
Empty nest
Date: 2005-05-11 12:39 pm (UTC)I would love to see what you think about Cachorro. Is it posted anywhere?
Re: Empty nest
Date: 2005-05-12 07:56 am (UTC)My perception was 30, simply because I live in a big city where house prices are too high (think about 10-15 times your year income) so young couples go out for a long time, begin to save to get a 25-30 year-long mortgage to pay a 80 sqm appartment. No wonder Spain is one of the countries with the least number of births.
I'm gonna write that about Cachorro but it'd be for friends only since there's personal stuff in there