Obama vs McCain
Jun. 5th, 2008 08:10 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
daddytoddOK, so this is in response to several posts in LJ tonight by Bears & other gay men talking about voting for McCain because Clinton didn't win the nomination.
I was never a Hillary Clinton fan; I was for Richardson, then briefly for Edwards before landing on Obama. But if Hillary had run a better campaign and actually captured the nomination, I'd be writing out a check for her campaign right now. Voting for McCain because your gal didn't win the nomination is simply beyond my capacity to understand. I'm willing to hear reasoned arguments, but I reserve the right to try and pick apart their logic.
I'm not saying there aren't reasons to pick McCain over Obama; I just haven't heard one yet that seems like it would be persuasive to a Gay man.
But even if we take out the LGBT part, the whole and single reason I never warmed to Hillary was that she voted for the Iraq War, and NEVER satisfactorily explained/apologized/rationalized that vote. She just started campaigning as if she'd been anti-war since Day One, when she was a zealous advocate of the war for at least a year before, and a couple years into it.
I think the Iraq War is one of the single greatest catastrophes my country has ever blundered into. Anyone who supported it needs to candidly explain WHY, and convince me he/she won't make that same mistake with Iran. As far as I know, Hillary never even attempted to make that case to voters.
But, ya know, I'd STILL vote for her over McCain, simply because I want a DEMOCRAT to pick the next couple of Supreme Court Justices. We're dangerously close to having every civil rights advance of the last 50 years swept away by the Supremes; we need to make sure Equal Rights are extended, not eroded.
((Edited to make it less inflammatory. Basically I wimped out on a comment I made, so I took out a couple paragraphs.))
I was never a Hillary Clinton fan; I was for Richardson, then briefly for Edwards before landing on Obama. But if Hillary had run a better campaign and actually captured the nomination, I'd be writing out a check for her campaign right now. Voting for McCain because your gal didn't win the nomination is simply beyond my capacity to understand. I'm willing to hear reasoned arguments, but I reserve the right to try and pick apart their logic.
I'm not saying there aren't reasons to pick McCain over Obama; I just haven't heard one yet that seems like it would be persuasive to a Gay man.
But even if we take out the LGBT part, the whole and single reason I never warmed to Hillary was that she voted for the Iraq War, and NEVER satisfactorily explained/apologized/rationalized that vote. She just started campaigning as if she'd been anti-war since Day One, when she was a zealous advocate of the war for at least a year before, and a couple years into it.
I think the Iraq War is one of the single greatest catastrophes my country has ever blundered into. Anyone who supported it needs to candidly explain WHY, and convince me he/she won't make that same mistake with Iran. As far as I know, Hillary never even attempted to make that case to voters.
But, ya know, I'd STILL vote for her over McCain, simply because I want a DEMOCRAT to pick the next couple of Supreme Court Justices. We're dangerously close to having every civil rights advance of the last 50 years swept away by the Supremes; we need to make sure Equal Rights are extended, not eroded.
((Edited to make it less inflammatory. Basically I wimped out on a comment I made, so I took out a couple paragraphs.))
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Date: 2008-06-08 05:38 am (UTC)I suspect that now it's over (the battle) and we have a presumptive nominee, eventually this is going to die down. Yes, there will be Clinton supporters that won't vote for Obama, but I suspect they will rather stay home, rather than vote for McCain, by and large. The majority over time will drift behind whichever Democratic nominee is up, and the convention and the election will pass without much drama. People like Harriet Christian will get their minutes of fame, and they will pass.
And the large voter turnouts amongst black and young voters will make a huge difference. People connect with Obama in a way that they never connected with Kerry. It will be fine. Don't worry.
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Date: 2008-06-08 12:16 pm (UTC)It's pride Weekend in Salt Lake, and I saw hundreds of people yesterday wearing Obama badges and stickers. It warmed my heart!